Abigail’s relationship with John is what changes the most between games, as John himself changes from a cold, distant father to a more caring man. His personality stays much the same between the two games, which is to be expected of this underhanded antagonist. He engages in most every action taken against John, but he does show increasing respect for the, Dutch is, and always has been, quite the charismatic fellow throughout the years charted in, . Performing certain positive actions like saving citizens under attack by criminals/animals or aiding lawmen will earn the player honor. Her personality is consistent in both games, as she’s depicted as both maternal and no-nonsense. His personality remains the same in RDR1 and RDR2, and it reflects the anti-Semitic attitudes of the time period. Abigail eventually becomes John’s wife, though in RDR2 she remains Abigail Roberts, mother of her and John’s child, Jack. He went as far as to find John Marston's original hat, bandolier, pants, and he even mimicked Johns's special ability!!! He isn’t as devoted to his family, and he struggles to deal with the gang’s influence on him and his morality. Main thing I liked in rdr1 that wasn’t in 2 is the ability to auto travel to a waypoint from a temporary camp. Prequel isn’t really the best way to describe Red Dead Redemption 2.. Our old protagonist from RDR1, who lets Arthur Morgan take the wheel in RDR2. I agree, they work together so well. The series gave fans two empathetic and fleshed-out heroes in John Marston and Arthur Morgan, with the former also being a playable character in the epilogue of RDR2. Now, critics wise, they are about tied, with RDR2 having a slightly more consistent rate of 9.5/10, 10/10, but only a bit. RDR. Personality-wise, we see more of Jack's in RDR1, as he’s much older and more defined. People at camp will also act differently around you depending on honor and Arthur's lines, body language and temperment are alk affected by honor. Rd2 was great do not misunderstand me but not 9.5 level perfect imo. His ego is through the roof, as is evidenced by his frequent use of his own name in conversation. His father was an illiterate Scottish immigrant who was born on the boat to New York, while his mother was a prostitute, who died during John's birth. That doesn’t mean I don’t like John — I do like him, I just like Arthur more. Jack was born around the mid 1890's. I'm on SO much fire! A bit of a scoundrel, Javier Escuella seemed like a bitter husk in, and we get to see his former, full personality in. This thread is archived. Dutch is, and always has been, quite the charismatic fellow throughout the years charted in RDR1 and RDR2. . 100 comments. 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(And watch out—spoilers ahead!). Most of what was great about RDR was improved in RDR2, and what needed work was worked on. I know these are added to the map in the epilogue, but there’s not much to do there and I certainly did not spend a lot of time there. Dutch’s growing awareness of the futility of his actions is something to behold, to say the least. Abigail’s relationship with John is what changes the most between games, as John himself changes from a cold, distant father to a more caring man, . He will disappear before John can turn around. Landon Ricketts is already a legend by the time of Red Dead Redemption 2, appearing on a cigarette card and even name-checked at times by Arthur Morgan and John Marston. Maybe it's because of nostalgia. Dutch’s growing awareness of the futility of his actions is something to behold, to say the least. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Most of what was great about RDR was improved in RDR2, and what needed work was worked on. The Red Dead Redemption franchise has two great protagonists in John Marston and … Red Dead Redemption II is set in 1899, so John is around 26 years-old and already a father (and probably a husband). And in my opinion RDR did a better job at gradually introducing you to the various activities. We don't get to see much of Bonnie's personality in RDR2, but the saga with Bonnie's suitor shows one of the reasons why she remains a bachelorette by the time of Red Dead Redemption despite the conventions of the time period. 5 Ways John Marston is Better Than Arthur Morgan in Red Dead Redemption 2. Also, a portrait of the Strange Man can be found in Herbert Moon's shop. That being said the weapons system in the original was better. That said, there are a few things I wish had carried over from 1 to 2. You can still slide down ladders, only on certain smooth metal ones though. His failure to take care of the Marston ranch, Beecher’s Hope, in, , though, ends up defining him as a character, even ten years prior. Edgar Ross, or Agent Ross, plays a huge role in, , as he’s the FBI agent that forces John to track down each former member of the Van der Linde Gang. If you didn't get all of the satchel upgrades and clothing as Arthur Morgan in RDR2, you should definitely do so after completing the game.Fashion and cosmetics are one of the most fun qualities of just about any open-world or RPG game, and RDR2 is no different.. Everyone has their own version of John Marston/Arthur Morgan, and you should definitely feel free to catch your own. Despite his unchanging nature, Uncle is one of the oldest members of the Van der Linde Gang, and, to give him some credit, he does occasionally complete tasks. His parents, John and Abigail, were both members of Dutch's Gang. His failure to take care of the Marston ranch, Beecher’s Hope, in RDR1, though, ends up defining him as a character, even ten years prior. Atleast just as good. So the young John is a lot more 'annoying' but he isn't always like that as he gets much older. Personality-wise, we see more of Jack's in. , where we get to see that transformation from a hopeful but merciless man into a delusional killer. He engages in most every action taken against John, but he does show increasing respect for the RDR1 protagonist, unlike Ross. During his childhood, Jack grew in the gang's life, and developed a close bound with John and Abigail's friends and fellow outlaws Dutch van der Linde, Bill Williamson, and Javier Escuella. , and it reflects the anti-Semitic attitudes of the time period. RDR1 vs. RDR2 story Red Dead Redemption 2 Xbox One . In 1899, the land is in bad shape with trash and rubble thrown about and one lonesome shack and outhouse in the middle, inhabited by squatters. She is among the more static characters between the two games, as she remains the morally pure voice of reason and comfort for Morgan and Marston as needed. His footprint in Red Dead Redemption 2 implies he may be the latter. They give better prices in stores and such for high honor players and low honor players get better loot. His presence is still very much felt in. Fordham is an interesting character, as we see much more of him in RDR1. It's unclear whether Nigel West Dickens was once an honest doctor or a fraud calling out other frauds as a cover for his own fraudulence. Maybe RDR2 is much more "deep" because you have ton of things to do and to take care. Herbert also has a lot of faith in his own theories, and he largely thinks he’s right about everything (even when it’s clear he isn’t). To everyone saying that John was annoying in RDR2: John was about 26 years old in RDR2 whereas he was almost 40 in the original. NEXT: Red Dead Redemption 2: The 5 Most Likable Characters (& 5 Fans Can't Stand). Though it may be hard to reconcile the two game's personalities at first, the evolution we get to see beats out that initial trepidation. Don't compare him to Arthur because Arthur was 36 so he has 10 years more experience and is more wise. In the second game, though, his initial devotion to the Gang and to Dutch’s vision is made much clearer. Rdr2 kind of just throws you out there, which is great if you are used to open world games in general and Rockstar games in particular but can be a bit overwhelming if you are not. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Javier’s devotion to both Dutch and the Gang is tested to the fullest extent, and his trust in others becomes shakier over the course of the game. Another former member of the Van der Linde Gang, Bill is an often-brutal character, but we get to see his quick slide into that brutality in. We do get to see how being part of the Van der Linde Gang has affected this much younger John. A subreddit for Rockstar's critically acclaimed open-world Western game Red Dead Redemption, its prequel Red Dead Redemption 2, and its online multiplayer Red Dead Online. Charles Smith. He never gives his name, but the common theory is that he is either God or Lucifer — a strong take, but it illustrates how cryptic the Strange Man is. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The hand thing only happens in RDR2, you can shoot someone three times in the arm and they’ll have a limp in RDR. I like that RDR2 became a more serious game. Even John Marston, one of the most popular and beloved characters of recent years has been surpassed by Arthur Morgan in many a fans eye. This is a major issue because the game sets it up as though you can do things your own way then forces you to do everything exactly 1 way: R*s designated path. Unlike the morally-neutral but. The fast travel options. Haven't seen the cover, but RDR2 is a prequel to RDR1. The ending of RDR was a bit more WTF then rdr2 but i still love both, The only thing I prefer in rdr is that bill and Dutch die and how dead eye refills. You think 1 will fit in 560mb. Landon Ricketts is a legendary gunslinger who has grown old by the events of Red Dead Redemption. Make Trevor's fantasy come true and become a rootin tootin cowboy! 1.9k. Yeah it's much easier to reach compared to high but even giving one of the towns the Thieves Landing treatment (better prices for low honor characters instead of high honor) would be great. His idealism is what brings him to the Van der Linde Gang in the first place and keeps him there, despite the increasingly-morally ambiguous actions they collectively take. Bonnie MacFarlane makes a very brief appearance in Red Dead Redemption 2 and is mentioned fleeing New Austin in the wake of the cholera outbreak. I think if RDR was made today, it would be better. Fordham is Ross' partner, and the two of them work together against John and the rest of the Van der Linde Gang. RDR. Get your facts straight. At most I wish there was an auto travel back to main camp from a temp camp. His attempts to form gangs in both are similar, too. His descent into the madness we see in RDR1 is finally tracked in RDR2, where we get to see that transformation from a hopeful but merciless man into a delusional killer. RELATED: Red Dead Redemption 2: 5 Ways To Make Money (& 5 That Are A Waste Of Time). Her personality is consistent in both games, as she’s depicted as both maternal and no-nonsense. Edgar Ross, or Agent Ross, plays a huge role in RDR1, as he’s the FBI agent that forces John to track down each former member of the Van der Linde Gang. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. We still get to see the beginning of it all, though, as his recklessness and simultaneous honesty comes through, even at four years old. The only things that matter is if you have fun play those 2 great game. seems to have the same intent, albeit with a vendetta against the government. I like the story much more in the second game. “All of this wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for Arthur, Sadie, and all the folks that fell” When John finally … Naturally the game mechanics are different because R* went for a different approach in RDR2. Megan Hoins has been a writer since she started tracing the names of authors on books at the ripe young age of four. The Strange Man is among the most unsettling side characters of Red Dead Redemption. His ego is through the roof, as is evidenced by his frequent use of his own name in conversation. We do get to see how being part of the Van der Linde Gang has affected this much younger John. In the second game, though, his initial devotion to the Gang and to Dutch’s vision is made much clearer. 2 years ago. 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